Across the country, Black city-builders are imagining and building more just and beautiful communities. What are they learning & dreaming? In our new series, Urban Consulate Confidential, host Orlando P. Bailey welcomes Andre M. Perry of Brookings Institution (Washington, D.C.) and Akeem Dixon of The Intersect (Philadelphia) for a candid cross-city conversation rooted in radical truth, joy & love.

Made possible by the Ford Foundation. Presented with Next City. Directed by Charles Ashley. Music by Kick Lee. Photography by Valaurian Waller and JP Leong. Recorded at The Cochrane House, Detroit.